IVAW Warrior Writers Colorado


Documentaries shot by Mark Lewis of CSaction.org from November 8, 2007 through May 16, 2008,

and February 23 at the Rocket Room in Colorado Springs,

and February 28 at Poor Richards ,

and May 6 at the Mercury Cafe in Denver.

and May 16 at the WeUsOur Gallery in Manitou.

To support the Warrior Writers Project please visit www.ivaw.org, and Colorado Veteran's Alliance


December 13, 2007 (newer at the top)

Joe Barrera greets and old friend and Vietnam Vet

Joe tells of hius uncle's inspiration for joining the Army

Brad recites "Like a Feather" and a song about being a recruiter

Brad

(Editor's note: As an active-duty soldier, Brad did not want to use his last name for fear of reprimand.)

Early 2005

I wrote this poem after the first time I stared at a human being through my sights with the intent to kill them. They were acting suspiciously and right before I pulled the trigger, I realized they weren't a threat like I initially thought. It was at that point I realized how influential and destructive a 21-year-old kid from Anywhere, USA can be. We could play judge, jury and executioner. Only our conscience and values stand between Iraqis and their death.

"The Pen"

My pen is my sword

My rifle my saber

Both lead charges of murder and death

One to take lives, the other to mourn them

One to pontificate, the other take breath

Both of them black

Made of plastic and metal

Both of them equally lethal

One denies God and all he intended

The other it bows to his steeple

Rick shows off his photo to the INDY photographer

Rick Duncan tells of his reasons for joining the Marines

Joe introduces Rick to the Gazette photographer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jim "Groucho" Beckenhaupt and his poem "40 Years Ago, Today"

"Groucho" recites "40 Years Ago. Today"

Garett tells of his experiences in Iraq

Jay Maloney talks about Vietnam and healing

Jay Maloney relates his healing from Vietnam

Jeff plays one of his songs

Jeff Englehart plays one of his songs about Iraq

Jeff's wife, Rhia tells of their meeting in Kosovo

Jeff Englehart plays "US Oil War"

Jeff Englehart

July 29, 2004

This was written at a time when, in America, dissent was highly discouraged and Bush's popularity rating was sitting somewhere in the high-70 percentile. Seeing how I wrote this poem while I was sitting on a machine gun, in a sweaty Humvee during the hot Iraqi summer, I felt I was entitled to be a little nasty.

Back then, I just simply could not imagine that, despite all the lies and hate-talk and hysteria going on, a majority of Americans either steadfastly supported such an illegal and immoral war or were flatly apathetic toward it. I got a lot of negative responses after I passed this poem around to friends and family back home.

Looking at it now, I do admit that it is somewhat callous to the American people. But then again, I'm not as angry as I was while I was deployed in Iraq. That, and much has changed in our support for the war and our national psyche toward it since 2004.

"Lemmings"

Boys, oblivious to their own mortality,

Marching in rank and file

To meet their demise.

While ravenous swine pull the strings

To defend their posh social standings.

On the home front,

In front of TV's,

Cheers of victory!

For 1,000 dead

Places carved in history.

The patriotic blind:

Their faces clad in Red White

And Blue,

To hide their pain,

To mask their pride.

Rest assured 1,000 died

To save Amerika.

The ultimate sacrifice,

The perfect disguise.

Adrian Stanley interviews Garett

Garett recites his poem, "Accidental Terrorist"

Garett Reppenhagen

May 2005

A group of soldiers and myself met the Bouncing Souls in Germany one month before we deployed to Iraq. While in Iraq, we wrote the band and they decided to post our e-mails on their Web site on a page called "Letters from Iraq." I wrote the poem about our shared experience; us in Iraq writing letters to our friends that missed us.

(Editor's note: The poem has since been adapted into a song of the same name, which is on the 2006 Bouncing Souls album The Gold Record.)

Garett's poem as the Bouncing Souls' song

"Letters from Iraq"

The hot Sunni sun

passes Moaning Mosque Spire.

B-company's pinned down

and under heavy fire.

Underneath the palms

there's improvised bombs.

Because, Jihad Johnny

knows Yankee is a liar.

On Euphrates east bank

where the desert winds blow,

M 1 Abe

keeps his head down low.

Smoking up Joe,

With a front back go,

Is General Hash,

And his puppet show.

They lost another friend today.

It's getting rough over there.

They say the food tastes like shit.

They miss the pussy, drugs and beer.

They say the whole things fucked.

I wish the boys were back.

At least I know they're still alive.

Another letter from Iraq.

Police Call Kilo's

marching double time.

While, the grease monkeys

sweep the motor pool line.

On guard is Shaming Jay.

Rolls his own every day.

Lifer Lenny's getting fitted

for new box of pine.

On an empty cot,

Presents full of Christmas loot.

All that's left of Bullet Billy

is a pair of bloody boots.

His mom is on the phone.

His girl is all alone.

We all stand in the rain

for a twenty-one gun salute.

They lost another friend today.

It's getting rough over there.

They say the food tastes like shit.

They miss the pussy, drugs and beer.

They say the whole things fucked.

I wish the boys were back.

At least I know they're still alive.

Another letter from Iraq.

Ramadan Rebel

Is in the holding cell.

The brass looks away

while MPs give "em hell.

Guantanamo rulebook.

From Basra to Kirkuk.

Beat "em in a bag,

and drop "em in a well.

Iron Mike's on patrol

his weapon status red.

He rolls out the gate

with a foot full of lead.

Tango's on the hill,

looking for a kill.

Mohammad's got him convinced

he'd be better off dead.

They lost another friend today.

It's getting rough over there.

They say the food tastes like shit.

They miss the pussy, drugs and beer.

They say the whole things fucked.

I wish the boys were back.

At least I know they're still alive.

Another letter from Iraq.

Ali Baba's on the offense

picking up the beat.

Delta needs an e-vac,

but the bird's outta seats.

There's a four man stack

outside the Hajji Shack.

Bradley's zipped in

calling Willie Pete.

There's celebratory fire.

And a purple thumb vote.

Tom cruise is on a sortie

from a gulf love boat.

Smart bombs are a coming.

See the children running.

The dead are all laughing,

but we don't get the joke.

They lost another friend today.

It's getting rough over there.

They say the food tastes like shit.

They miss the pussy, drugs and beer.

They say the whole things fucked.

I wish the boys were back.

At least I know they're still alive.

Another letter from Iraq.

An eye for an eye.

And, blood for Texas Tea.

At the call to prayer

Al Qaeda's on his knees.

Isaac versus Ishmael.

Allah versus Christ.

Basic Training to Route Tampa

rolls in the F-N-Gs.

Marines say Semper Fi

as they cross Highway Ten.

Uncle Sam's in High School

Seeking a "few good men".

Rummy's in the Green Zone.

We'd all rather be home.

Where we can watch the war

On C-N-N.

They lost another friend today.

It's getting rough over there.

They say the food tastes like shit.

They miss the pussy, drugs and beer.

They say the whole things fucked.

I wish the boys were back.

At least I know they're still alive.

Another letter from Iraq.

Michael McCarthy tells of the pain of sending people to die

Michael's op/ed piece in the INDY

Andrea Gibson recites "For Eli" (AndreaGibson.org)

Words to "For Eli" are here


DECEMBER 20, 2007
Mightier than the Sword
Inspired by overwhelming emotion, local veterans turn to the healing power of poetry

BY J. ADRIAN STANLEY

This was, perhaps, the most radical thing a Southern California boy had ever done in order to see a Bouncing Souls concert.

It's almost certain that at some later moment, Joe Hatcher looked back and thought to himself, "That was so punk rock!" But here, bundled in a sleeping bag under a pile of clutter in the trunk of his friend's car, a border guard clenching his shoe, Hatcher was not feeling so triumphant.

Thankfully, the guard was oblivious.

Garett Reppenhagen, Jeff Englehart and Ben Schrader, all feeling the rush that accompanies improbable luck, were freed to cross the border from Germany into the Czech Republic, with Hatcher safely snuggled in the back. There would be no arrests today. No charges of international body-smuggling.

A few miles down the road, Hatcher was freed from the trunk, and immediately told his Army buddies something to the effect of, "I've never been so terrified in my life."

Reppenhagen, Englehart and Schrader — who, along with Hatcher, were stationed in Germany — had actually met the members of the Bouncing Souls the night before. The band had invited them to the next night's gig in Prague. Hatcher wanted to go, but didn't have a passport. It seemed like an OK idea to shove him in the trunk and bring him along.

"We had nothing to lose," Englehart says. "We were going to Iraq."

The f-word

The guys, facing a yearlong deployment in 2004, were blissfully unaware that these two days would help launch a chain of events that would nearly land them in military prison — not for body-smuggling, but for name-calling.

Here's the story: The guys really liked the band. So much so that, when they later were in Iraq, they decided to write to the band members. As the soldiers grew weary and began to react to the violence of their situation, the e-mails became more personal. Some began to include poetry.

"It just seemed like a necessity to do it," Reppenhagen says. Reppenhagen, a high school dropout, never imagined he'd be drawn to reading books, let alone writing.

"The stuff that I wanted to express," he says, "didn't come out any other way than poetry."

The Bouncing Souls were so impressed they began posting the e-mails on their Web page.

Then, in 2004, Hatcher set up a blog for the four friends, called "Fight to Survive," at ftssoldier.blogspot.com.

"We were opposed to the war before we went," Englehart says. "And we got together and said, "You know what we should do? We should write about this shit.'"

The posse of four began posting to the blog, using pen names. They wrote whatever they felt: the good, the bad and the "Bush is a fascist."

The latter got them into trouble.

"They threatened to court-martial us," Englehart says.

The Department of Defense doesn't allow soldiers to call Bush the f-word. Other words on the no-no list for presidential name-calling apparently include "Fight to Survive" favorites like "Nazi" and "gangster."

But the men got lucky (again). An investigation revealed they had not violated "operational security," and in a don't-rock-the-boat move, they were released from military service in 2005 without being charged.

More than talk

They dispersed across the country, but the blog kept going. Reppenhagen was quickly drawn into activism. He took a job in Washington, D.C., with Veterans for America. In his spare time, he volunteered at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and for Iraq Veterans Against the War, a national support, advocacy and education organization.

In 2006, Reppenhagen was at the Vans Warped Tour with the Bouncing Souls, introducing the song "Letters from Iraq" — one of Reppenhagen's poems, set to music.

Coincidentally, a young soldier named Jared Hood was in the audience that day. Hood later told Reppenhagen that the Warped speech helped him decide to go AWOL.

In 2007, Reppenhagen moved to Green Mountain Falls and started attending Pikes Peak Community College, studying to be a history teacher. Slowly, he began gathering his old friends. Schrader lives in the Fort Collins area. Hatcher lives in Cascade with his girlfriend and her 5-year-old son; they are expecting twins. Englehart moved to Denver at Reppenhagen's urging, bringing his wife.

The friends are all active in IVAW. And they've found others like them. Hood is now the Denver chapter president. Another friend, Mark Wilkerson, runs the Colorado Springs chapter. Wilkerson started writing in earnest while he was locked up for deserting.

"In prison, I really started to find myself," he says, "and this stuff just started to spew out of me."

Across the country, veterans are writing and blogging. IVAW has locked into the growing interest that veterans have in poetry, by launching the Warrior Writers Project. It has since hosted five workshops, where vets share ideas and write poetry, across the country. (There has yet to be a workshop in Colorado.)

Green Door Studio, in collaboration with People's Republic of Paper, has printed one compilation book, Warrior Writers: Move, Shoot and Communicate. L. Brown & Sons Printing, Inc., is putting out a new book, Re-making Sense, in January. Colorado Springs vets are featured in both.

The local veterans' writing community continues to grow, through open mics and advocacy groups. Here are some of the poems coming out of it, along with authors' introductions.


Warrior Writers November 8, 2007


 

Sarah Wilkerson teases her husband, Mark

Mark Wilkerson reads his poem, "Broken Toy Soldiers"

Mark Wilkerson

January 2007

This poem was written when I had turned myself back in to Fort Hood. I was with some friends driving in the town of Killeen, and we drove by a pawn shop. On a sign outside the store, it said, "We buy broken jewelry." I don't know why that affected me so greatly. Just the fact that "why does jewelry get broken"?

So I thought of an image of a husband or wife throwing their rings, or breaking them out of anger. I pictured broken homes, broken hearts and this pawn shop was taking advantage of that, like it was profiting off others' pain. So I went back to my barracks room and wrote this.

"Broken Toy Soldiers"

We buy broken hearts, and boil them in white pots

We mix 'em up, cook 'em up, and feed them to our dogs.

And when the dogs have had their fill, and say they've had enough

We wait until they shit 'em out, and gather up the stuff.

We put the hearts in buckets, and give 'em to the chefs,

Who roll them out on baking sheets, and stick on top the chips.

Then they throw them in the oven, and cook them till they're well

Then we feed them to the kiddies, who say "Gee sir, they're swell!"

Then we hand the kids a little flag, which they begin to wave

Stick 'em in the audience of a Veteran's Day Parade.

As the troops go marching by, with flashbacks in their eyes,

They see the bright-eyed angels, and they begin to sigh.

For once a long, long time ago, they stood on the side,

Till a recruiter came to them and told them all his lies.

Then they're standing in an office, standing proud and tall

They look all around 'em, see a hundred others in the hall.

They hold up their right hands, they say they'll do it all,

Then we send them off to war, they see all around them fall,

Kids, soldiers, dreams, hopes,

Till all that stands are broken toy soldiers.

Yes we buy broken hearts of now-childless moms,

And sell them in ribbons in booths at strip malls.

We buy broken hearts of now-widowed wives,

Who work hard everyday to keep her kids alive.

We buy broken hearts of now-broken men,

Then make them re-enlist, for heartless men will do it again.

We buy broken hearts of now-fatherless sons,

Wait till they grow up, and sell them all our guns,

Send them off to fight in a different-but-same war,

Tell them "Hadji killed your dad," so they'll kill more and more,

Yes, we buy broken hearts and stick 'em in our songs,

We buy broken hearts and insert 'em in our speeches,

We buy broken hearts and stick 'em on the back of our pickup trucks,

We buy broken hearts to help our war machine go round,

And soon one day we'll buy yours, and throw you in the ground.


Mark Wilkerson

Feb. 11, 2007

This was written soon after I saw a recruiting commercial on the TV. This was just a week before my court-martial, and I was upset about the production quality of the recruiting commercials, and I felt (and still do) that the commercials paint a pretty picture over a very dangerous, sometimes very ugly career: that of a soldier.

"One Of Us"

One of us, one of us,

Do you really want to be one of us?

Look at where we're at, look at how we live.

A never-ending rush, anything to add that edge

To a life that is all but failed already.

Dead at 20, nothing to fill the void after the spirit left.

Oh so long ago ... oh so long ago ...

Oh so long ago we died trying to find a way to live,

Trying to find a way to justify just what we did.

The what, where, why, and how we got here is irrelevant, long forgotten.

Forgotten in a river of booze and broken bottles.

To dream what we dream, to feel what we feel, would make you dead too.

So come to our side, live as one of us.

Dream our dreams, sleep our sleep.

Come and be whatever the hell you want to be, in the army

Join the army, join the army

Fill the ranks, you're fresh meat for their grinder,

You're fresh blood for their veins.


Sarah Wilkerson tells of the rough times going AWOL

Garett reads a poem to the group

Garett's poem, "Duffle Bags"

Rick and Pete meet

Rick Duncan tells of his injuries

Joe Barrera, VietNam Vet and organizer (SouthWestHistory.com)

Joe Barrera (SouthWestHistory.com) recounts the loss of his best friend in Vietnam

John walter speaks about stop loss

Adrian Stanley's INDY article on John and Stop Loss

Jay Maloney, Vietnam Vet

Ed Osborne, Vietnam Vet

The group listen to Joe Barbara

Adrian Stanley of the Independent newspaper, takes a photo

Mark points out to Rick that KVOR Radio is covering the event


"Duffle Bags" by Garrett Reppenhagen


Ben Schrader

Date unknown

This one I actually wrote while I was on an airplane headed back from a Vets4Vets workshop in Miami. It was an amazing experience, but I was confused about how or what I needed to do to help those in need. I was still very bitter with the attitude of the country at the time, and frustrated that things weren't changing and Bush wasn't behind bars. FYI: This was written after I was out, but looking for a way to help end the war!

"Passage of Time"

Flying high above the cities,

All the little lights.

People sleeping, dreaming, making love.

Fighting, living, dieing.

It makes me question what to do,

Do I live a good life?

Am I a good person?

I know I try!

But I see so much pain as I look down.

Is it just in me or can everyone feel it?

Hunger, War, Violence.

Where does it end?

I tell myself that I can make a difference!

I can change the world!

But can I?

How many before me have said the same?

How many feel the way I feel?

Are there others like me?

Or am I alone?

I hope not ...

Where do I go,

Do I try to find love?

Try to find peace?

Money, prosperity, what's the answer?

I'm a hopeless romantic, in search of true love.

I want truth, peace, and equality!

Will I ever find any of these things?

I can only pray.

But to whom do I pray?

God, Allah, Buddha?

All stories of man.

All filled with hope, lies, and deceit.

So much blood and agony.

So many tears.

Lives and loves lost,

Friends and families torn.

When will it end?

I will never know.

For I am a pebble in the passage of time.

All I can hope for is a peace of mind!!!


Garett Reppenhagen at congressional hearings on PTSD

Democracy Now! interview

Garrett and Kelly on MTV

Kelly Dougherty interview before bush bus tour

Garrett interview in DC

Garrett speech in Chicago

Garett on VideoVets

Adam Kokesh reads Garb's poem, "Dirt"

Adam Kokesh and Garrett present Hoyer's aide with flag

Garrett, and Fernando Braga, and Veterans for Peace, Thomas Brenson in NY street theater: "Operaion First Casualty"

Ms. Tina Richards, Garrett Reppehagen and Liam Madden spoke out in support of Iraqi War Veteran and ex-Marine Sgt., Adam Kokesh. He is involved in a First Amendment-related case, which focuses on the right of a former member of the military to dissent from the views of the Bush-Cheney Gang with respect to the ongoing unjust and illegal war. Kokesh is facing charges from the Marine Corps for wearing parts of his uniform at a recent anti-war demonstration.

Starting off on the bush tour bus

Kelly Dougherty and Maricelo Guzman helping rebuild houses in New Orleans 9th Ward


Warrior Writers beginnings

IRAQ VETERANS AGAINST THE WAR writers project. A book of collected writings by the Vets being sold to promote communications and healing. Drew Cameron reads a poem.

Cloy Richards, Aaron Hughes, and Drew Cameron of Iraq Veterans Against the War read their writings from "Remaking Sense". The book is a compilation created through a series of writing workshops designed by IVAW members. This was a public reading held at the Green Door Studio in Burlington, VT. The event also included an art opening and two hours of readings from veterans from all over the country.

More from the Vermont sessions. Aaron Hughes recites "I Am"

IVAW Members at the Warrior Writers workshop in Vermont. This is Drew Cameron singing "So Early in the Morning"


Adrian Stanley's continuing INDY series on the Warrior Writers (2007)

report on first Warrior Writers poetry slam at Meadow Muffins


What Was Asked of Us

An Oral History of the Iraq War--By 30 Soldiers Who Were There

by Douglas Herman

March 7, 2007

"I found myself in a highly civilized world ignoring the Vietnam War . . . . Nobody I knew even talked about Vietnam, making it a very difficult situation to return to."  ~ Oliver Stone, movie director and Vietnam veteran

Imagine yourself, never having left America before and only recently out of school and, suddenly in a foreign land. Now imagine yourself as a heavily-armed, heavily-armored teenager, sweating under 50 pounds of gear in 110 degree heat, having to tell a beaten, occupied people what to do. Imagine not knowing the local language. Imagine having conquered that country, having the war declared “over” and then having the fighting intensify.

What Was Asked of Us, by Trish Wood and Vietnam veteran Bobby Muller, mostly succeeds in putting the reader into the boots of the conquering US soldier on the ground. And then puts the reader into the body armor as occupiers. 

“Most of the time I was pretty calm . . . . At other times I had to be in the middle of a bunch of Iraqis that weren’t doing what you wanted them to . . . . It’s a frustrating situation to have to act outside of your nature,” said cavalry scout/sniper Gar Reppenhagen. “The reasons why soldiers do half the shit they do is mostly out of fear of punishment . . . what motivates these kids is fear of being punished.”

We discover Reppenhagen is among the most reflective soldiers interviewed, one of the more confessional voices in a revelatory book.

Some soldiers admit a thrill of combat. Like USMC veteran Matthew Winn. “I’m glad that I joined and got to see some combat . . . . I don’t think I was ever scared. I know it sounds like a typical guy, but I don’t think I was ever scared. Combat was just something I always wanted to do, and I enjoyed doing that. I had adrenaline--I guess I’m an adrenaline junkie, but it was fun.”

Yet the war eventually took a toll on everyone. As war veteran Hemingway once wrote: “The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.”

“I started bawling,” admitted Ken Davis. I just started crying. And I said, ‘God, you picked the wrong guy for this job. You picked the wrong guy to be in this country.” Davis found himself at the center of the Abu Ghraib atrocities. He tried to report the abuses to his superior but was told to shut up. “Military intel is in charge of the entire compound,” a lieutenant told him. After the scandal exploded, Davis asked: “I don’t believe it was just a few bad apples. I’m not that gullible. I am not going to be lied to by a government that I would have given my life for in Iraq.” 

Infantryman Joseph Hatcher concurred. “We’re in the country for the oil . . . . There is no connection to 9/11. There’s no reason for us to be there. We’re walking down the street telling people we’re there to help them, and all night long we just kill each other. If I was a citizen there and someone came in and tried to take over my country, take over my city . . . . I would be out on the street with every single one of them.” 

In country from Feb 2004 to March 2005, Hatcher admitted his bias. “I have so many problems with this war and this military, and this government. It’s hard for me to talk about it because I don’t know where to direct my frustration.”

Mostly the frustration spills from the pages of the book, much of it directed at the mission, or lack of one.

“You know, by the time I arrived in Iraq, I realized we weren’t going in after WMD, I was there as a cop, a fireman, a sewage-waste manager,” said Brady Van Engelen. Shot in the head, he survived.

“Our idea was to use the neighborhood people to come out and clean the garbage up,” said Jonathon Powers, about his stint in Baghdad. “It would have cost us just forty dollars a week to pay for trucks, garbage bags . . . . It turns out the CPA wouldn’t give us the forty dollars a week . . . . We kept looking at each other like, what the fuck are we doing? They needed a sewage solution. Forty bucks a week for a fifty-thousand person sector and we couldn’t get it done.” 

A sense of hopelessness soon overshadows the initial optimism of the interviewed soldiers. “We deal with, like, stress in situations like that in strange ways,” said Reppenhagen, reflecting on the futility. “I don’t know, its just--’Shit, did you see that kid’s arm? That fucking thing went right over the fucking Humvee.’ In situations that are just so horrible, sometimes all you can do is laugh.” 

“These kids are really putting themselves on the line and you feel bad that you can’t do more for them,” Said Army surgeon Earl Hecker. “This is an injury war . . . . I saw injuries that I’ll never forget. This is the secret side of the war. Nobody knows about it. Nobody talks about it. Nobody addresses it. Nobody looks at it.” 

Readers might think I’m over-emphasizing the negative, that the book cannot be as overtly anti-war as I imply. I’ll leave it to each of you to decide for yourselves. My only complaint(s) is: the 30 soldiers interviewed are rarely identified by rank and they are too few. There should have been more of them. No one can fault them for their candor, however. 

“Right now there’s this cold and calculated side of the war that just accepts tragedy for what it is, and doesn’t dwell on its sorrowful nature,” observed Army guardsman, Benjamin Flanders. “This is what happens when people speak to each other with rifles.”

To their everlasting credit, the interviewers left a hefty dose of soldierly rage in the pages. This book is not your typical, PG friendly local newspaper, and thank God for that. All the profanity--and war is the biggest profanity of all--is left intact. 

“What the fuck was this for, you know,” wondered Jeff Englehart. “What the fuck was this for? I hope Bush is happy.” 

“The ‘Support the Troops’ ribbons on vehicles began to look like swastikas,” Reppenhagen added, once back in the USA. “Because it’s really ‘Support the War,’ not ‘Support the Troops.’ It’s a guilt-free way of saying: ‘I’ve done my duty. I support the troops. Look, I’ve got the sticker,’ when it’s a bunch of bullshit.”

“I don’t like to admit that I was directly at hand hurting people,” confessed Garett Reppenhagen. “In the end I couldn‘t stand up to my convictions and I went . . . . I don‘t think it’s going to be anytime soon that I can just let myself off the hook . . . . If I really, really get into it, I don’t think that I’m going to come back out of it for a long while. America might have to change before I can change.”

What Was Asked of Us: An Oral History of the Iraq War

 


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